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A second LAPD Officer steps forward with his own Manifesto, in the wake of Christopher Dorner

The following is a post from a Joe Jones LAPD (Ret.)

“My Former LAPD Officer Joe Jones MANIFESTO… I know most of you who personally who me are in disbelief of the partial story I will tell today. A story that has been suppressed for about 18 years, But lives strong everyday of my life. I without hesitation would like to send my condolences to the Victims who were lost and their families during this tragic situation. I would also like to send my condolences and well wishes to the many former and current Officers, as well as …Citizen’s and their families who lost the lives and souls of loved one’s to the injustices of Police Corruption, Scandal, Lies, Deception and Brutality.

Unlike Former Officer Dorner, I fear dying; But I also fear living in a society where Innocent people are dying for no reason. A society where pain so great can be afflicted to people who have to desire to live right and treat people right and then be punished for doing right. They say we all look alike. In very few cases this of course is true. But in most cases it is not. I feel a resemblance to Dorner, (See Photos) However several people who have no resemblance to Dorner have been shot due to the fear of what is taking place. I DO NOT WANT TO BE SHOT FOR CRIMES I DID NOT COMMIT!. Neither does anyone else. To preface my story I will say this: Just like former Officer Christopher Dorner I used to smile a lot. I loved everyone. I was voted Friendliest Senior of my Sr. Class in High School. I always believed in the system and never got into any trouble. I loved hard and gave to all I could.

After Joining the LAPD in 1989 I quickly found out that the world and society had major flaws. I had flaws as well for ever believing that our system of government was obligated to do the right thing. his is what I believed as a young Officer. Without going into major detail, I need you to first assume that I would not surface 16 years later with lies about a situation that has me with PTSD to this very day. The pain forces me to speak as I have yet to shake the Ill’s of my experience as an LAPD Officer. Of course I have moved on physically. But mentally and emotionally I still live with flaws. I can’t go into re-living the emotions of what I went through so I will say this. I had my home viciously attacked by a gunman with my family and myself inside the house. No arrests were made and my family and I Received very little support. I had my Civil Rights violated on several occasions. I was falsely arrested at gunpoint by the Sheriffs as an Officer who ID’d himself and was conspired against by both LAPD and the Sheriffs when my Civil case went to Trial.

I was falsely accused on more than one occasion and simply placed in a position that the trust was so compromised that I could no longer wear the Uniform. Also know there were many more episodes. All of these issues are well documented and I present them not to be a Whistle blower, However to hope that one would not assume that all of what is being said is Lies as presented by Dorner. I don’t know him, But I know me. I will say from my experience, If a person knows they were wrong it is easier to move on without anger. Seems that Dorner obviously could not move on… Could I just be content and move on with my life and not say anything? Yes…Then I would feel that I for once had my chance to speak on something that hurts me to this day and I did nothing to arouse thought or provoke reform.

This is what I hope comes from this whole situation: 1. Families that lost someone to this tragedy find the peace that only God can give at this terrible time. 2. Citizens of Los Angeles be mindful of this fearful time to be an Officer and comply vigorously so that you are not the victim of an Officer on high alert. 3. Government and Politicians please be diligent in the responsibility of creating Laws that protect those who could be the victim of a conspiracy. Never allow the door to be shut on the Truth. 4. Honest and Fair LAPD & All Agencies: Keep doing what you are doing to protect citizens and be safe while you are doing so. We need you and I would hope that you do not allow the Bureaucratic drama and Stress to kill your morale as I know it can. 5. Unethical LAPD & all Agencies: Whatever is was that lead you down this path, Pray to somebody’s God to forgive you and begin to remove unethical methods to your policing style.

Always think what if it were you, How would you feel?..How would you like if you were falsely accused and your life, lively-hood and career was taken from you? How would you like if someone was beating on you just because they felt they could get away with it? You are no better the criminals you took and oath to arrest when you do what you do! 6. Chistopher Dorner. The 1st thing I would say to him is, I feel your pains!…But you are going about this the wrong way. To take innocent lives could never be the answer to anything. I say this as a Man who experienced the same pain, betrayal, anger, suffering, litigation and agony that you did in many ways, Only I didn’t get Fired. I just choose to go a different route. My heart still suffered that same shock, I was still left to try and put the pieces back together. The disbelief that people could conspire and cause you to loose something you loved so dearly was still there. I lost my Career, I lost my Family, I lost my Dignity, I lost my Trust…But I am here now to hopefully one day see change…Bro, Don’t kill anymore Innocent people. Your point has been made. Clearly. They know you mean business, The whole world knows. Refrain from any further wrong doing and do what you must to salvage your Soul. Whatever that means to you. Just remember that God is a forgiving God. In conclusion I say to people who knew none of this about me that one day I will have to reflect on when was the time to speak. When I see the potential for innocent lives to be lost…The time is Now!…JJ”


The article above was taken from Joe Jones facebook page.

Joe Jones is a former LAPD Police Officer who brings to light similar issues, issues which are on the tip of every ethical and moral minded officers tongue, but go unspoken, and if written, somehow never see the light of day, the time for that to change was yesterday, Occupy Police is here now, if you need an outlet from which to speak from, please don’t hesitate to contact us – don’t feel backed into a corner like Chris – We commend Joe for raising valid concerns in a civil manner, through writing, we wish Chris could have done the same.

16 thoughts on “A second LAPD Officer steps forward with his own Manifesto, in the wake of Christopher Dorner

  1. I admire this man’s courage for coming forward and exposing the Truth. The question is…will Mr.Jones be a target now? Will they make his life miserable for coming forward or will someone finally listen and stop these sick maniacs from taking the law into their own filthy hands and abusing the already very fragile judicial system.

  2. Thank you, people of conscience, for all that you do! It is a terrible life to have unfinished business and now is a great time to turn things around.

    • Hey Marty, we’re experiencing downtime due to about 10,000 viewers per hour attempting to view this page. We’re switching servers, and all should be normal in about an hour.

  3. Brave soul you are , because you have risked finding yourself in the same situation as Christopher Dorner . The LAPD will not change yet . There are too many corrupt officers (though there will certainly be excellent ones too ) , and if you rid the force of the crims who have been excepted as cops , you will find yourself severely short staffed. That would be hell , because America has a lot of hard arse fucks as citizens that like to take people out (and I dont mean for dinner) .Maybe having crim cops in the balance of nice cops is a good thing.Average people do not like facing fuckwits with a gun , so you send out the crim cops and hopefully they will be the ones to get shot up . I do not know what the answer is , but I do know that I believe you and Christopher are telling the truth. May GOD be with you both .

  4. It seems to me that if you know of wrong doing, and do not want to go along with it, the best way of dealing with it, is to gather your evidence, document it, make duplicate copies of the duplicates, and then present the evidence and your findings to the relevant people.

    If you going to be a whistler blower, you have to be one ALL the time, and not allow anything to slide by. Pay for the cup of coffee, every time. Most of these guys like Jones and Donner, I would guess have let many irregularity slide by because it was too much trouble to deal with at the time. And now that lack of doing something has come back to bite them hard.

    The Donner case is ONLY about the fact that he killed a number of people, and threaten to do it again. The reasons why he did this are not important, they can be examined once he is arrested and brought to court. A failure to bring him to court, is a failure of the system, and that is what the public should be behind the cops, demanding that they bring him alive to a court. I have yet to see anyone making this an important thing to demand.

    All I have seen is irrational people panding to the fear the media is generating for them. Americans really are the idiots of the world.

  5. yup. they are out of control shooting already cuffed people and so on. Most think they are above the law. If only they used their power to arrest criminal political figures that pass laws to make the crimes they do. To become legal

  6. Mike that’s a very important point you make, one which is being pursued by us and Occupy Marines. With the recent over reactions in the street when the LAPD assume they’ve spotted Dorner, bringing him in alive should be paramount. I don’t think the public realizes that the LAPD are looking for a kill shot with Dorner. Thanks for expressing your concern Mike.

  7. If you are former LAPD and recently made a posting in conjunction with Dorner, I would like to talk with you. I am former USSS, SDPD, U.S. Mint Police, U.S. Customs and Immigration and a WHISTLE-BLOWER and want to help Dorner and others like him or US. I have been public since 1995 and out of U.S., Customs since 1998, I have a web site: http://www.customscorruption.com , Email: john.a.carman@gmail.com , Cell: (619)609-1733 anytime !!! Please call me brother !!! This is the time!!!

  8. Being that it was a female officer who lied about what she did and got dorner fired, are we sure it wasn’t the white woman fear black man syndrome she was going through which made her feel she needed to do what she could to get rid of this big black man.

  9. The letter below was rejected by the court, but it contains my conclusions about Supreme Court decisions, as well as budget cuts in the 80′s, which, in my opinion gave rise to the predicament Los Angeles finds itself in. I was collateral damage, but their is an oasis beyond desperation that one can find.

    By Bob Bennett
    What is the responsibility of a public defender towards a criminal defendant?
    Is it to assist the accused in the preparation of a defense, as stated in the U.S. Constitution ( 6th Amendment: In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial; by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense. ); or not?
    These questions are not asked lightly, and are primarily based upon personal experience, more than 20 years ago, in the State of California. My first arrest was a result of seizures being mistaken for illegal drug use also resulting in a diagnosis of PTSD, and the loss of a job at small computer company. Following this, I did exhibit some strange behaviors which resulted in several more arrests, including on a warrant issued in the wrong name, as well as being lost in the system twice, and other indignities. I discovered attorneys, like police officers, were not required to ever obtain a statement from the accused, and most prefer not doing this. Quite frankly the process left me with disgust; the attorneys I encountered were among the rudest, most obnoxious people I had ever met, and the California Bar Assn. did not see any reason to sanction the attorney who left me with the choice of dying in jail or pleading no contest to charges I did not believe myself guilty of.
    I do believe in acting responsible, and in 1992 received Honorable Mention for a paper I wrote on how mental health courts could provide better treatment while saving communities money. I later served on the committee which helped to form Nevada’s first mental health court, as well as a volunteer on several mental health related boards. But, the memories of my experiences in the courts of Los Angeles still trouble me as they have negative implications for the future of America, and I place this at the feet of The U.S, Supreme Court and ask that you re-consider a few decisions.
    While actions of individual attorneys did vary, and not all performed each of these actions, the basic performance was:
    1. Upon meeting, tell defendant: “Plead no contest and I can get you out of jail by tomorrow.”
    2. Should defendant protest innocence, tell defendant: “It doesn’t make any difference if you are guilty or not, plead no contest anyway, that’s the way the system works.”
    3. Should defendant still protest: Display contempt towards defendant with a physical gesture.
    4. Should defendant still protest: Inform defendant that charges will be increased, he will not receive any assistance from the attorneys, and he will spend years in prison, even if only charged with a misdemeanor.
    I have also had attorneys tell me “We (the attorneys) decided that everyone charged with a crime will be found guilty of something”; “ If you were innocent, you would have been born rich enough to afford a good attorney”; “That’s all you people use as an excuse” (when attempting to obtain medication for my medical condition); as well as deliberately mislead me as to the meaning of ‘waiving time’ – lawyer short-hand for giving up the Constitutional right to a fair and speedy trial.
    I came to understand, in time, that my experiences where not isolated incidents, but rather the commonly accepted way of doing business in the courts of Los Angeles. As I understand it, changes in court procedure in some counties, have resulted from economizing on the cost of court due to the increased expenditures imposed by Miranda v Arizona (384 U.S. 436, 1966). The above actions generally took place not in the court room, but in the conferences which occur prior to the proceedings which are closed to all except the attorney and defendant; except these conferences can be crowded resulting in other defendants overhearing everything spoken.
    Among the unintended consequences of Miranda are:
    A. Police no longer give suspects an opportunity to clear themselves.
    B. More suspects are arrested.
    C. Plea Bargains have largely replaced Trials.
    D. Crime is encouraged and rewarded.
    E. The innocent and those with mitigating circumstances are often scapegoated.
    F. Police errors and abuse are often covered up.
    The use of ‘waiving time’, lawyer shorthand for giving up the right to a fair and speedy trial, was common. When I asked my attorney what it meant, he said it was to delay a trail for a few days so he could get ready. A few days turned out to be 30 days, and then he just pressured me to plead ‘no
    contest’ and when I tried to enlist his aid in obtaining prescription medication for a condition I had had since age 10 or 11, he told me “That’s what all you people use as an excuse. After 74 days in solitary, I caved in order not to die in jail. The California Bar Assn. could not see anything wrong with the actions of this attorney.
    The implications of REHBERG v. PAULK No. 10–788( Argued November 1, 2011—Decided April 2, 2012), as well as Imbler v Pachtman, (424 U.S. 409, 1976) in which the U.S. Supreme Court encourages malicious prosecution is also troubling. Perhaps the justices should consider impeaching themselves for their callous disregard of the Preamble to the Constitution: We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

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